Miikka Anttonen is an MTT pro who has had a rather colorful poker career despite of his young age. He has written a book called “Once a gambler”, which will be released very soon. Miikka is known as a Cardrunners coach but also for his writing skills. Miikka was nice enough to grant Nutblocker a Snapshot interview and he really took the time to give great answers, so let’s dig in and let Miikka talk.
About You
1. What is your name, age and where are you located? What is your personal twitter account?
Miikka Anttonen, 29, location varies greatly. I’m originally from Finland, but I don’t like to spend a lot of time here when it’s not summer, so I’m anywhere else but my home country most of the time. By chance I’m actually here in the cold north at the moment, but by the time the article gets released I’ll probably be in either Toronto or Havana already. I just came to visit friends and family after spending the latter half of last year in Malta, but a month of this winter is more than enough for me so it’s time to move forward. My twitter is @chuckbasspoker.
2. What are Your online poker Screen names?
I keep most of my screen names a secret, as most of my volume is on euro sites and I don’t like to attract too much attention to my poker-playing these days. I used to be “cannotletgo” on Stars, but I’ve stopped playing there entirely because of all the recent bullshit, so I guess the most prominent one I have left is BoysDontCRAI that I either use or have used in most networks at some point. In general, most know me as “Chuck Bass”, which is the name I use when posting on the forums etc.
3. How would you define yourself as a poker player? / What poker games do you normally play? Are you learning any new games?
I play MTTs, mostly mid-stakes these days. I used to love the spotlight some years ago, but nowadays I’m the unknown grinder in the shadows that no one even notices, and I like it that way. I’m pretty decent at mixed games and especially split pot games too, but now that I don’t play on Stars anymore those games are hard to find elsewhere. Generally I really enjoy the thrill of learning a new games and getting better at the ones I already know, but due to the current climate 99% of the games I play are just NLHE MTTs. Boring, I know, but boring makes you money!
4. What do you most enjoy about your job?
I know this sounds kind of silly, but after eight years of playing poker I still really love just getting on the grind and firing 20 tables of random donkaments and clicking away. Most players go for the prestige and enjoy big events like SCOOPs and WCOOPs and whatever. I’ve stopped caring about any of that stuff, because it just brings me stress, and I hate stress. I’ve found that I’m at my happiest when I just fire games that I’m overrolled for and where my opponents typically aren’t world class, sit back in my chair and print money. The kinds of games that no one else wants to even play, the odd 50-player field freezeouts on some obscure euro site that most regs don’t want to play on, I live for that stuff. I don’t think I’m ever going to get tired of it and I think it’s just really fun, but whenever you add stress to it the game becomes much less fun.
5. Who are the top 3 players in your main game from your home country in your personal opinion?
This is kind of tough, because as we all know MTTs are the last soft thing left when it comes to online poker, but none of the best poker players really play them for a living. So the ones who could be the best, like Jeans or whoever, don’t really play MTTs but I have no doubt they’d be the best if they wanted to. But if I’m thinking strictly about the guys who play online MTTs for a living, there really aren’t that many of us anymore. I think the first two are pretty easy, €urop€an and emeriaa, they both just crush in the toughest tournaments in the world day after day. The third, hmm – LarsLuzak would be there but I don’t count him since I think he only bothers to print his annual $500k from donkaments during SCOOP/WCOOP time. I’m gonna go with salaliitto as my third choice.
6. What reg in your game do you respect most? Can you briefly describe why?
It’s hard to pick one guy, I really respect everyone who beats the games these days. The first name that comes to mind is James Obst. His training videos on RunItOnce are the best I’ve ever seen and he just seems like not only a phenomenal poker player, but a really great, smart dude. Someone like apestyles would be a great answer too, you know, all these really oldschool regs who’ve managed to develop their games again and again over the years and remain the best in the business year after year.
7. Besides yourself who do you think the most underrated poker player is?
Haha, if anything I’d say I’m probably overrated. When it comes to underrated, in MTTs it’s basically all those smart guys who you never notice but who are making all the money. Look at someone like emeriaa, he’s the kind of guy you never even notice at your table, because he just plays a very, very solid game. He’s not one of those ego warriors who 7bet shoves A3o into you, you may have never read a single interview of his, but when you dig him up on sharkscope he’s up like 1,5 million without a glimpse of variance. It’s these guys who have all the money. When you look at the pocketfives top 100, half the guys are dead broke and deep in makeup. Since the ultimate goal in poker is to make money above everything else, it’s these guys who don’t enjoy the spotlight but who have all the money that are the truly underrated ones.
Past
1. Why and when did you start playing poker? Do you still play for the same reasons?
I found poker when I was 20, so that would have been in 2007, but I’ve been gambling ever since I was about ten years old. What drove me to poker originally was just because I love gambling, and I got addicted to it because finally there was a game that had all the gambling elements my degen soul loves but where it’s possible to be a winner in the long run. And yeah, I guess that’s still the main reason I play, I just really love it and enjoy every day on the felt regardless of if I win or lose.
2. What were the best and worst months of your poker career? What happened?
From a financial perspective, I think I’ve had two separate months where I made about $100k or close to it. The other was when I won the Sunday Brawl, chopped a TCOOP HU tournament and won some 3rd largeish thing I’ve forgotten about within a couple of weeks. I had struggled before that month and I worked really hard, I remember it was a January and I spent even the previous Christmas holidays having a lockdown and number-crunching, so getting those results after all that was very satisfying. The other was just one score when I won the biggest live tournament in my home country for exactly $100k, it was at my home casino and it was really emotional for a bunch of reasons, so I guess I would rank that as the best even that it really was just a stupid live donkament I ran good at. The worst month was a few years ago when I was sort of breaking up from my live-in girlfriend, we were extremely miserable together and I put all my focus into grinding when my mind wasn’t there because I didn’t want to deal with all the break-up stuff. I can’t remember how much exactly I lost but maybe about $60k? Oh and I bricked a full month of WSOPs a few summers ago as well, including near-bubbling the main event, I think that was overall for a similar loss.
3. Are you satisfied with the last 12 months of your poker play?
The past year was actually the first year since 2007 when I did work on something else than poker primarily (although 100% of my income still came from poker). I was writing my first book (it’s called Once A Gambler, out any day now), and it took so much time and effort I don’t have words to describe. I think I played about 100 days last year and worked on the book for the rest. This was a conscious decision, I was always supposed to be a writer but then poker accidentally happened and whoops, it’s been 8 years now. So when the opportunity arose to write my memoir I wanted to go for it and was fortunate enough to have poker on the side to pay the bills. To answer the actual question, I’m pretty happy with my results in terms of winrate, bb/100 and whatever, obviously the sheer amount of money I made wasn’t very huge due to the lack of volume. I definitely didn’t play my best poker last year, because all my focus was on the book project and it was really hard to play my best game when I had to take so many breaks and was always sort of mentally multi-tasking – I’d get ideas for the book in the middle of a session and so on. But I was smart and played in smaller, virtually variance free games and printed a pretty decent amount of money, so I can’t complain!
4. How did Black Friday impact you? How did you adapt after Black Friday?
Not that much, I had some money on FTP that got in there for a couple of years, but that was about it. Maybe the most interesting thing about Black Friday to me personally was that we almost launched a training/affiliate site combination with a bunch of high stakes-playing friends back then. We smelled the opportunity – all of a sudden all the American grinders who’d played their lives entirely on Stars and FTP would move out of the country and seek euro sites to play on, and there would be a lot money to be made if we could get their future rake under our site. We were going to be called EuroGrinders and we had a really great roster for training videos, lots of high stakes players you would have heard of (but who I won’t name), as well as some really solid business ideas. We negotiated with a bunch of sites and had really solid deals us well. We eventually never launched for multiple reasons, the main one being the stupid Finnish legislation that would’ve basically made us criminals for promoting gambling. I really think it could’ve ended up quite a success.
5. What was the biggest factor in your development as a player?
There have been a few big moments. I originally learned to play no limit from Cardrunners videos back in the day when they were considered revolutionary. I remember watching their heads-up videos and my mind was blown when I saw how they played almost every hand in the videos. When I switched to MTTs from cash around 2009/10, for a long time I tried to be like everyone else and just play a mechanical, mistake-free style. Then at some point I just sort of snapped and realized that you can get away with so much shit that people don’t do, because everyone plays that same style, and I started crushing the games (this was around 2011). Nowadays everyone’s tough and no one plays mechanical anymore, and it’s honestly hard work to keep up with the times. I’ve always had a pretty good work ethic when it comes to studying, so I guess the biggest thing that allows me to still play poker for a living in 2016, even if I’m making much less than I used to, is having the willingness to put in the hours both playing and studying. I’d like to think I work pretty hard and I always have, I’m not talented at all at this game but you can get away with a lot of bad personality traits if you’re willing to work hard.
6. What was the biggest mistake(s) you have done as a poker player?
Haha, this list is too long to even get started in this interview… I wrote a whole book basically about this subject and it’s my definitive statement on all the stupid shit I’ve done starting from 5k roulette flips that landed me sleeping on park benches. So if you’re interested in the various ways I have fucked up in the past, I’d recommend picking up the book.
7. What’s your biggest prop bet?
This is kind of lame, because based on my book and blogs everyone thinks I’m this huge degen gambler, but I haven’t done any really massive prop bets money-wise. I don’t enjoy prop betting that much, because it’s against some friend, and I don’t like the negative tension that stuff can bring into friendships. Money-wise the biggest I’ve done is 5k I think (I’ve both won and lost one, both were sports related). But we’ve done a couple of fun non-monetary ones with my friends. One I lost was that I had to visit Africa by the end of the year, and it was like November or something at that point. After a strange chain of events I ended up on board of a muslim cargo ship and eventually got to Tangier that way. I also once lost a prop bet where I had to listen to this on repeat for a month whenever I played poker, that was pretty intense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyfc10qDcR4
Present
1. How do you prepare for your poker activities?
I don’t really prepare, I have pretty much zero routine, sleeping cycle or anything of that nature. I just play when I feel like it!
2. If you could pick the brain of anyone in the world for 3 hours, who would he/she be?
I know I’m supposed to answer this with some great philosopher or whatever, or maybe a writer given how that’s the only career besides poker I’m interested in. But honestly, I’ve always been really interested in the creative processes behind all kinds of artists. Like, how does a painter come up with exactly the kind of surrealist painting he paints? Where does David Lynch get ideas for his movies? Etc. I think Lynch would be pretty high on my list here, but I think I’d still pick a musician, just because I’m very talentless when it comes to music and I can’t wrap my head around how these musicians come up with their stuff. I can get writing great lyrics and coming up with a catchy bass hook or whatever, but it’s always baffled me how they see all those pieces of the puzzle come together and create multi-layered songs that use all kinds of instruments and computers. So as ridiculous as this sounds, I think I would pick either Kanye West (it’d without a doubt also be pretty fun just to hang out with him since he’s a pretty absurd human being in the first place) or Tame Impala’s Kevin Parker, who’s probably the best multi-instrumentalist of this era. Had you asked me a month ago I’d have picked Bowie, but it’s too late for that now sadly.
3. What 3 poker pros should PokerStars sign to their team online roster?
I’d forget about the pros for a while and start by hiring someone who has a clue about running a poker room and establishing a trust between the company and its clients. The lengths they’ve gone to scamming their customers recently is absurd and they could clearly really use some fresh blood in the management.
4. What is your favorite way to relieve stress when running bad?
I took up climbing a couple of years ago and it’s done wonders. I love looking down from the heights, I find it very relaxing and generally calming. For short-term stress release I just go on walks, it always calms my nerves. Generally I don’t really stress about running bad though, because donkaments are pretty easy and the games I play in don’t really have a lot of variance involved. I think I’ve had one losing week in the last 1,5 years.
5. How much volume are you playing on Eurosites?
Virtually all of it. I think I’ve played about three days on Stars in the last 1,5 years, and I intend to keep it that way.
6. Why are you not playing mid/high stakes already? If you are, what are the 3 most important things that got you there?
To me it’s more like backwards, I played high stakes for about 4-5 years there, and I’ve recently dropped down quite a bit. This is quite simply because I don’t think there’s that much money to be made at the highest stakes anymore, and there’s a shit ton of stress/variance free money to be made a bit lower. Most idiot regs have too much ego and pride to step down, and I went through a phase like that myself too. But nowadays I feel no shame saying that hey, I might simply not be good enough for high stakes anymore. That’s ok, I’m really happy where I am. Originally what got me to high stakes – hard work, willingness to grind a LOT, ambition. I have a lot of personality traits that are really bad and unoptimal for a poker player, but one of the few good things about how my mind works is that I don’t give up easily. I always keep pushing until I get to where I want and it was that drive that originally had me reach my potential. Nowadays I simply don’t think my potential is very high in comparison to how tough poker has become, but I’m doing my best every day to play my best in the games I play in.
7. What is the most important positive change you’ve made to your poker approach this year?
Well it’s only January, but something I’ve tried this month has been waking up earlier and playing in the morning games. They are smaller, but you get to see more sunlight (here in Finland we only have what, a few hours of sunlight per day in January?), which has been good for my psyche.
Future
1. What are your poker and other goals for the next 12 months?
Now that I’m done with the book I intend to play full time in 2016, but I think my focus is still always partially in writing – I’m working on a couple of writing projects on the side already (one is a screenplay, and another is a novel). I’d expect to play a full 40 hours a week or so on maybe 40 weeks total. If I could make $100k this year solely from poker, I’d be happy. But I don’t really do goal-setting anymore, I’ll just do my best and see what happens. Goals just bring unwanted stress to my life.
2. Are you confident that you will meet those goals? Why?
If I can maintain last year’s winrate but double the volume it won’t be even hard to reach six figures, and I’m pretty positive that I can actually attain a better winrate now that I’ll have more time to focus on playing and studying. So I don’t see why I wouldn’t get there, but we’ll see.
3. Do you see yourself still playing poker in 10 years?
I honestly won’t be surprised if I won’t play at all. I do love the game and maybe I’ll play it recreationally, but I kinda doubt it. I generally always focus all my energy and effort towards just a couple of things in life, and don’t care much for the rest. Poker has got the vast majority of my focus for nearly a decade now, and will for as long as it remains my job. But if/when I eventually quit playing for a living, I think I’m just going to want to focus all that energy on whatever else I’ll be doing. I don’t know if I’d enjoy poker if I couldn’t give it my everything, so I think it’s entirely possible I won’t be playing at all. I’m 95% sure I at least won’t be playing for a living.
4. Do you have any ambition to coach/teach other players?
I made videos for CardRunners for four years, and before that for PokerStrategy as well. I’ve coached 30-40 people over the years, but that too is one of those things that I either want to do well or not do at all – I’ve turned down a bunch of coaching requests lately just because I don’t think I could be of much help. I don’t think that I currently have much to give when it comes to coaching, most of my money just comes from good choices, game selection and routine, I don’t really have any magic tricks in my sleeve these days. I used to be ahead of the curve a lot a few years ago, but everyone’s caught up and now I’m just one of the hundreds of guys making a living playing. I don’t really feel motivated about coaching these days, so I don’t think I’m going to do it at least in the near future.
5. What’s the poker dream for you?
I remember in 2008 when I was starting from SNGs I had this huge dream of having a four-figure winning month. Then I had that, and the next dream was a five-figure month, and whatever I achieved it was always replaced by a new dream. I wanted to become a CardRunners coach ever since I watched their videos back in the day, and then I was made one. I wanted to get noticed by the poker media, and next thing I know I was in the cover of CardPlayer magazine. When I started MTTs, I dreamed of having a five-figure online score, and when I got it I wanted to win a Sunday major. Then I won a major and a shitload of other majors, but it didn’t help because now I wanted to win a big live tournament. Then I won a big live tournament, and even a world championship title, but none of that gave me satisfaction because there was always a new dream. Only recently I’ve realized that dreaming in relation to poker is pretty dumb. I’m already living my dream. In a way, I haven’t worked a day since I was 21. I can wake up and go to sleep whenever I want, I love every minute of my job, I can travel wherever I want whenever I want, I’m accountable to no one. That’s the dream right there. Sure, if the poker gods decide I’ll be the next WSOP Main Event champion, I don’t exactly object it, but I can’t say I really dream about it either. Things are really well the way they are right now.
6. How do you see the poker landscape changing in the next five years?
Amaya will screw everything up and goes bankrupt. PokerStars gets bought back by its old owners for a fraction of the selling price, and the old management along with some new poker player-turned CEOs put it on the right track. Americans return to the global poker player pool and sites such as Unibet grow to challenge Pokerstars’ reign. That’s the dream scenario, realistically I won’t be surprised if it all goes to shits and none of us play for a living anymore in 2021.
7. How much time are you putting into studying financial issues like investing. What are your preferred sources for this? What investments are you making with your poker winnings?
Pretty much zero. Like I said before, I only like to do things if I know I can do well in them, and learning investing from scratch would take too much time. I’m more a happiness-oriented guy than one who goes after money, and investing doesn’t really interest me that much. If I won a boatload of money from something so that I’d actually have to invest it, I’d probably just hire some guy to take care of everything for me. If I ever end up actually investing in something, it’d be a start-up company that I could get hands-on with.
Other
1. Do you have any regular non-poker hobbies? Whats your favorite way to spend your spare time?
The climbing I mentioned before takes a lot of time, as does the writing. It’s pretty cool that I can call both of my professions, poker and writing, my hobbies as really when I do either I enjoy them so much. Besides that, I like all sports in general, I hit the gym a fair bit and this summer I’m going to get back on the tennis grind.
2. If you could give you from five years ago (make it ten if over 30) one major piece of advice, what would it be?
Don’t chase pseudo glory and dreams that don’t really exist. Don’t get backed just so you could play in the biggest tournaments in the world, focus on what you’re alredy good at and print all the money.
3. What are the 3 things everyone should have on their bucket list?
-Seeing the world, stepping out of your comfort zone and immersing in other cultures. It’ll do wonders for you, trust me.
-Finding a job that makes you happy, we spend 1/3 of our lives working, it’s not worth it to spend all that time being unhappy in a job you hate.
-Reading the great novels from the last 200 years. We spend all this time browsing internet forums and almost none reading all the important literature out there, it makes me sad.
4. Do you follow any poker podcasts or poker players on Twitch?
I’m pretty strongly against Twitch. I hate the idea of whoring yourself out for a tiny compensation to show all the recreationals how online poker in 2016 really is numbers and HUDs and calculators and whatnot, I think many of those streams can be really bad for the game. I recently looked at some guy’s Twitch who’s apparently really popular and I couldn’t watch for longer than twenty seconds because he tilted me so hard. It’s really sad to me that this is what poker has come to – to get a sponsorship you’re not measured by your skills but by to what lengths you’re willing to go to get visibility. I did watch the Aussie Millions stream Somerville made though, I think for live poker Twitch can be a great thing and Jason did a great job making it entertaining for both casual players and professionals.
5. If you could change one thing with online poker, what would that be? What if you could change one thing with live poker?
I would somehow end the Pokerstars monopoly and resume the competition, and if possible I’d have Americans return to the global player pool. For live poker I’d install shot clocks for live tournaments.
6. What is the best place and the best restaurant your have ever visited?
Hah, that’s a tough one. I’ve been to 65 countries and I’ve lived in so many places by now that it’s hard to pick one. I guess I’d say that I enjoyed living in Sydney the most out of all places, but if I had to choose the absolute best city in the world, I’d still say New York. I’m a big city guy, small places drive me nuts pretty fast. Best restaurant is tough too, I’m not really a food snob in the sense that I don’t really go to high-class places ever. I think I’ll have to pass that question actually, I literally can’t think of anything specific. Sorry!
7. Who do you challenge to do the Poker Player Snapshot next and why?
I’m definitely going to pass the baton to James Obst, I guess everyone generally suggests their friends here and I don’t even know James, but I just think he’d have really great answers.